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xx Hello from the Scottish Borders
« Thread started on: Jan 7th, 2013, 4:56pm »

Hi folks, Catriona Lackie here, from the wettest county in Scotland (apparently....certainly feels like it) undecided

I do wish there werent so many miles between Cornsborough and here! I need some rejuvenating help in the NH field, have a horse to ride and am ready to go, but don't have any instructors nearby to help - well none I want to access anyway.

Judith - there are a small group of us here, definitely 4 who would be very keen to have a couple of days of tuition. Does Charlie still do away clinics?

Also, Liz - thanks for keeping me on the mailing list, this year is going to be the one when I make it to the summer camp! I'm determined!
I need to know as soon as possible what dates they will be, as I have some work colleagues champing at the bit to book summer hols. cool

In the meantime, lets have some crisp dry weather please, and an end to the incessant rain!!

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RARING TO GO!!

LOOK, CHARLIE, IT'S NOT A HIGHLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 10th, 2013, 9:53pm »

Hello Catriona ,lovely to hear from you . Tell us all about your new horse!And why isnt it a Highland?I shall indeed ask Charlie about a clinic in your area ,and we ll see what we can organise. Its a few years since he taught in your area.

Down here we are having drier weather , and some sunshine. Our nextdoor neighbour has a rain gauge - 41 inches for 2012, an our average in the dry vale of York is 25 inches! there are still lakes of water in many fields , an even abandoned arable impliments in stubble fields. We re lucky we only have grass - and got a yr s worth of muck out in the frosty days in Dec- plastered it on the 25 acre field , an only now beginning to look green rather than black!

We have made a start on Keanu s education - in four sessions he has progressed to wearing bridle and saddle. last summer he was very suspicious and braced about anything new , but he has been so relaxed and calm. I put this down to Idahos influence , as she is so confident around us, and he s following suit. We only work him for about 15 mins sessions. I then follow with 15 mins liberty with Idaho. She has to have her 'say' when we start , which is quite a few circuits at trot . I ve decided to find it charming, and let her get on with it without doing anything about it [eg turn her , influence pace etc]. When she s ready she ll come and stand besie me and be reay to learn new stuff.She has had various lessons in liberty over the years , with Kim and last camp with Vanessa. She has a good draw. Already I can backup by the tail, and I m using stick aids as prep for ridden liberty. eg to back up when stood at her girth area, forequarter yields from girth area.
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xx Re: Hello from the Scottish Borders
« Reply #2 on: Jan 11th, 2013, 10:54am »

Hi Judith, it would be fab to get a clinic up here, there is certainly enthusiasm for it.

Milly is a 16.2h Shire x mare, 13 yrs old, and on loan with a view to buy. I am doing it as a share with a colleague, she is one of the ones who is keen to have some tuition from Charlie.
Milly has spent a lot of years being ridden western style, and generally slops along with her nose near the ground!! So I have some work ahead in getting her to use her body more efficiently. She's a big, buxom girl, like myself rolleyes but very willing and friendly. I feel safer and more confident on her than on the Highlands - their propensity for bucking and tripping has done little for my confidence over the years.
I do still have 2 highlands though, my brood mare is in foal, and I have a rising 4 yr old also.

I am just about to start doing groundwork with Milly, she's quite dominant, so we will need lots of strategies. I have been watching Parelli's Liberty & Horse Behaviour DVDs again to help with this. Any other tips and reading suggestions welcome!
I can't wait for your summer camp this year, definitely going to come with her.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 5:43pm »

At 16.2 your mare certainly is a big girl! And probably somewhere aling the line she s discovered just how bigger and stronger she is than most humans! I do have aproblem with the western riding 'peanut roller' style. For any horse to be encouraged to have their heads so far down seems to be just odd. I know the theory is that a relaxed horse without rider can move like that , but for any length of time , and with a rider , theres too much weight on the shoulders and forelegs - no good thing. For big girls like yours, thats a lot of head and neck weight, and none of it is being taken by the hindquarters, and riding isnt so comfy on a downhill horse.
So I would encourage her to lighten and frame herself - in your groundwork , circling will start this , as long as you have the correct bend and get her using the whole of her spine. If she looks to the outside of the circle, send energy to the inner hock. At this size her circles will need to be quite large - not sure if a 12 ' line would be enough!
Biggest tip for big bargy horses - STAND YOUR GROUND! Never let tthem think they can intimidate you , so be very aware of where your feet are , dont let her move them in a backwards direction! She will know when that happens - even if you dont!
As an aside I try to keep to this when I m in the shed with the cattle and Eric appears [ and somehow he can just materailise very quietly just behind me!]. I m not going to argue with a huge Limmy bull, but try to walk at a tangent and get behind a cow , rather than run away from him.
If you want books on liberty , there arent many decent ones - apart from frederic Pignon -'Gallop to freedom'. Its not a 'how to do' book at all, mainly about how we need to be to do any horsework correctly and kindly. In a similar vein are the Hempfling books 'Dancing with horses' and 'What horses tell you'. For general N H Bil[ or is it Tom?]l Dorrances 'Horsemanship through feel' is hard to beat - if you can get past the USA idiom. he uses the phrase 'right on' a lot, meaning [we think!] relaxed and in a learning frame of mind.
If there is plenty of interest for a clinic we ll definitely sort that out .
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 19th, 2013, 8:49pm »

Could I ask everyone to sign petition re the less than humane treatment of horses at Turners Cheshire abbatoire. There are links via Horse and HOund forum and also World Horse welfare.
Petitioners would like CCTV cameras to ensure careful treatment of horses, and surely thats not expenive or too much to ask. Personally Id like CCTV in every slaughterhouse.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 21st, 2013, 3:29pm »

Here's a link to the petition you mention:
http://www.worldhorsewelfare.org/information/latest-news?view=show&content_id=5403
I thought the local authority or RSPCA visited abbattoirs regularly so I wonder how this one slipped through the net? I daresay there are others but hopefully they'll buck their ideas up after seeing the rumpus surrounding this one.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 24th, 2013, 09:32am »

Legally there should be vet inspections , RSPCA would only be involved after a compliant [ as I understand it] There are only 2 licensed horse abbatoirs in UK - this one above , and Potters nr Bristol. I havent been able to steal myself to watch the video , and believe the workers involved have been sacked. However, I think we need to know and believe any horse[ indeed any animal] is dealt with humanely ,swiftly and stressfree as possible.

We are doing little with the horses,and will wait until the weather is better. Char;ie is veneering card tables - a long and intricate job but he enjoys it! While he does that I draw. Have drawn lots of buildings, so for a break am now drawing horses. My dream would be a pencil art group based in this area where we could informally get together - and I have the name ' We fade to grey'. Or is that too close to 50 shades of grey ? Which would also work as a pencil art group name lol![ but may get the wrong clientel!]
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 1st, 2013, 6:17pm »

Better weather at last!
please note SUMMER CAMP DATES FOR 2013
As usual that will be N H group work with Charlie, and A T /liberty with Judith.
Here at Cornborough-10-13th of August.
In Bedfordshire -20th 23rd of July
as usual Liz Molyneux is the person with the details
already the Cornborough camp will have lunchtime speakers on Equine Touch, Overcoming our fears, and Horse talk.

Charlie will be back competing this weekend - an Elem and a Med test. Wills and Charlie had a lesson today, brushing up on their halfpasses and shoulder ins.
Now that the weather is better I intend to start keanu off again on his backing.
I know various of you like to here cow news - well 3 cows calved since the new Year - 3 cows with vet attendance. The first 2 had infections , different sorts but still ill cows and lots of antibiotics, but now cows [ Minnie and Dec] and calved oing well. Third cow very serious. Skotty , who came as foster cow with 2 calves last Dec, and was a nightmare, not ever letting them suck, and therefore had to be yoked and kickbarred twice daily till April, started to calve Sunday. Nothing much happened for a couple of hours, and we didnt want to interfere, hoping she d calve herself and bond well. As if it was going to be that easy.......
We got her out and put her in calving yoke, C put arm up, c ame across a tail and nothing else!! Vet called ...twins ....couldnt get 'tail' one out as hind legs in bad position. Couldnt get second calf pulled out past it. .....
Myself and vet scrub up for caesarian , take note Skotty kicks a ot , and hates injections. I am designated vet nurse. 2 men , my son and bro, hold down Scotty[ by lieing on her neck!] as she struggles against epidural and sedation. Charlie has hold of back legs . I am womb holder!!
Two dead calves are pulled out. I pass threaded needles etc to vet. 2 hours , no live calves, but no doubt a big bill. As Scotty hates foster calves, decide against trying to get her to accept one. Now we have a useless Scotty, very healthy and recovered extremely well, though 5 days of injections have been a danger for Charlie to administer! Why do we do it?! 6 more cows to calve in next few weeks - watch this space.......
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 4th, 2013, 12:05pm »

Charlie did 2 tests yesterday - an Elementary and a medium , getting 67 % in the Elem and 64% in medium , which was very good , as marking gets progressivelt tigher up the levels. So, in elem extended trot only need across the middle of the diagonal, but in Med it has to be for every stride. Wills now Sane enough and strong enough to do this harder work. Well, I m saying sane enough - he still has his moments! So we wwere very pleased with a 2nd and 3rd rossette for the 2 tests.
Theres always stuff to learn- for once there was a very infrmative thread on the H&H forum, re saddles. mainly saying how badly they were made now. The threader writer couldnt reveal 'bad' makes, though some are in Walsall. One definite way is to see the tree [ assuming yours will be made the same of course], and some saddlers have trees available.
'Bad' makes are using soft wood or even plastic for the tree.
Also, the gorth straps are not taken over the tree but just tacked or stapled on to each of the tree sides [hope this makes sense, a picture would ber much better!] It means your girth is only secured by the tecks/staples, rathe than doubly nailed on from 1 side to the other.
Also, flocking is often with inferior materials .
Of course for most of these things you d need to take the saddle apart ,which is a pain bit might be worth oit if any of you have doubts about the workmanship [ which leads to bad fit ]

Another thing to look for , and I did, was check whether your stirrup bars are stamped. This is not a certain indecator , as some are put in with the stamps on the inside face [ great- how useless is that!?] None the less, I was shocked at the results of our dozen saddles.
2-yes only 2 ! had stamp marks. A 1982 Jeffries event and Toppers old Ideal saddle.
Unmarked were - 1970s Podhjiski,an Albion,the 2 Antills,various unknown brands of vintage saddle that certainly look 'English best quality' , the 2 synthetics [ I dislike them - and certainly wouldnt expect them to be well made! In my defence we couldnt fit anything else to 1 difficult mare and the second saddle was 'inherited'], and a newly new xwide saddle .
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 4th, 2013, 4:08pm »

Forgot to add :
Reluctant sale of buckskin LW/MW horse of over 16hh. Trained in N H to high level by exParelli instructor. PM me initially, and I can send on messages to friend via Facebook!
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