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« Thread started on: Jan 19th, 2011, 2:53pm »

Hi

Well, it's that time of year already (Christmas seems sooo long ago now) when we start to crank up the Summer Camp preparations smiley

The camp will start on Saturday 16th July and run for - well, how long shall we say? 4 days, 5 days, 5 days with a day off? What's the general feeling chaps? I'd thought it would follow the popular format of instruction from Charlie with liberty and AT from Judith plus some interesting lunch time talks/visits- ideas for those are always appreciated, volunteers to conduct one especially so smiley

As you're aware we'll be in a different part of glorious Yorkshire this year - nearer to York in the village of Cornborough near Sheriff Hutton.

I'll be emailing everyone shortly with more information but if you're interested then please let me know (liz@receptional.com) and also indicate what length of camp you want it to be this year.

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 21st, 2011, 10:38am »

Today Charlie and I walked out the area for an outdoor training arena. This will be grass this year - and we ll see how that works out! For the camp theres always the bigger fileds - from 1 acre to 22! Also , by then the indoor area will be done - at the moment there are cattle in there .
We are still not online , 24th is the 'date' we re tolfd. As the previous tenant left bill to BT of 3k , they have felt disinclined to do anything with us! hopefully they now believe we re different people and kosher! Its so bad not being online , even our 'mail enable' addresses are not working properly , so to my weight loss buddy I say - 1 lb down this week! We have a black lab till march, friends have gone to N Z , and left us with 'Rocky' , so I m walking him 1 to 1 1/2 hours daily. I m loving lerarning the footpaths andf bridleways nearby. One path crosses the gallops of trainer Tim Walford, so I love watching the racehorses fly up the mile long stretch. Its along time since I rode horses that fast ! [ or was fit enough to do it well!]
With hard frosts again , summer camp looks far away, but we look forward to seeing old and new friends - so I hope you are getting in touch with Liz!
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 24th, 2011, 08:28am »

Well, the weather was very cold indeed in Northamptonshire these last few days and we left and returned to B&b in the dark each day. However, on last morning is was perceptively lighter and as it was a shorter day we finally saw the beautiful scenery as we left!

What a marathon! And soooo cold!

My first thoughts as the clinic got under way and the riders showed us their stuff, were of horror quite frankly. I had gone with Niki Lynne and Sophie Clarkson who are both with me and we just sat in despair and felt we had made a mistake not at PK but coming to the clinic. Poor Niki had not been accepted and was a reserve rider and I think she was thinking of suicide. BUT all turned around with the last rider for us.

Where is the quality control in equestrian teaching? These people could not ride! OK , 1 or 2 could but they looked scruffy, their horses were going so badly, except the last one, and often their tack didn't fit at all. Which is totally unacceptable. Talk about tourettes of the leg!!!

The last rider was Lianne Patchett from Yorkshire and a stonking coloured cob. Joy it moved forward, she rode in the middle , there was rythumn and genuine pleasere in watching.

PK rode all the horses and we saw an improvement in all.

If you have come from a natural background then so much he says and does makes perfect sense as he concentrated soly on the mouth ,neck and shoulders.

By the end of the very long second day I started to think that thank goodness these instructors had come on the course as things will start to change at grass roots teaching. He is looking to have other trainers take over from him.

At the end he was very pleased to meet Sophie and once he saw her pictures was a changed man. It was very nice to have her show him that there are good teachers in the UK and some people are doing the right thing!
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 25th, 2011, 9:47pm »

I have to agre Alex, the standard of teaching today is dire! We know a 'big cheese' of BHS , we ve known her for years , but now only know her through Charlie having to 'put right' horses she has instructed . Its all about getting a contact, yank,pull,haul, and no acknowlegment of what the horse might feel or need. This instructor has alot of influence , and has had for years - 20odd years ago she was training in a big establishment for BHSAI students , so in the intervening years what will she have passed on?! And ps , I once had a shared lesson with her [ C had most of her attention] , and there came the jumping part of the lesson. Up the jumps went till they were over 3feet high and the same wide. I gave her a horrified look and she barked at me , ' You re not going home till you ve jumped it'.Well, I shut my eyes and let my horse stop , and stop again. Never had a lesson with her oe similar since!!
Back to PK, the problem is that until the BHS biggies see him as a big time trainer ie international results or something , he is destined to get lesser mortals at his clinics. C really liked him , and thought he was patient and diplomatic - perhaps too much so if the student has a closed mind!
In the newest Dressage mag the German trainer who trains Laura Bert?sholer said all the right things. His clinic , with very advanced horses , was all about letting the horse be happy, agiving rein ,working through but with breaks and release. The students ,riding at high levels STILL needed telling all this.

BTW, I will be in touch re A T, Alex.

WE HAVE OUR OWN COMPUTER CONNECTED. We are part of the outside world, and that feels great. So ,please, if you need to get in touch , emails working finer and will be answered promptly. Phone us on 01347 879024 if you d prefer. C hasnt been teaching much, but its amazing how the fine months [ May- Aug]are getting filled with appointments.Fine months that we d like to spend cycling etc , but no it ll be teaching as usual!
My treatment room is finished , as are some of the house rooms , but things are a bit topsy turvy, as the front of the house will get new windows this week- more mess and cold! Tiling nearly finished in kitchen, just decorsting there to do.
But outside theres much to do. Today we paced out grass arena, and paddock beyond. Also, fencing etc in other fields to be done. The biggest field is about23 acres, a big square filed with a hill up and down in far corner - should provide opprtunities for cantering etc on the summer camp!
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 26th, 2011, 09:47am »

cry I can't make this year.

But wanted to say thank you again to Charlie and Judith for what I have learnt at the last 2 camps: I backed Pippin at the end of Dec. She is a madam and I really didn't know what to expect. But I managed on my own, leaving David free to video the event! There were a couple of awkward moments, due to a little indecision on my part and a loose girth, but Pippin was a super star. She stayed calm the whole time and once she realised it was still possible to go forward put in a couple of lovely extended walk strides.

Best wishes - from one very happy Summer Camp customer grin
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 28th, 2011, 1:31pm »

Oh what a shame you can't join us sad But what a super result with Pippin, very well done, what a buzz that must have given you smiley
I'm not sure about you lot 'oop north' but it's turned really cold down here - half an inch of ice in the trough this morning! Claude is still moulting like it's going out of fashion and as well as scraping him all over with that wonderful tool I have to check for gashes, it's easiest just to follow the trail of blood actually. Mind you, the local bird population are dleighted, as the cloud of hair floats off downwind, I can see the rooks queueingup to take a beakful back to their nests! He's getting really itchy and is utilising everything he can get himself against - trees, barbed wire, fenceposts, picnic benches - you name it and there are masses of little piles of white hair surrounding them. On the down side he keeps cutting himself, so he's fairly multi-coloured at the moment: his base colour is white-ish pale grey, overlaid with lumps of mud smeared primarily over one side, dried blood and strategically placed dollops of anti-septic cream all over him too! Very eye catching. Just in case he's got an outbreak of little wriggly friends I'm also dosing them both with powder. Madam contents herself with ripping one or both of her heartbars off every few days but it causes surprising little (if any) damage to her feet and she continues to progress.

Back to the subject matter of this thread - the summer camp. So far 7 people have said they're really interested in coming which is wonderful and a huge credit to Charlie and Judith's approach to sharing their knowledge. There are still some places left so do get in touch with me if you'd like more information or just to register your interest.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 30th, 2011, 09:00am »

grin I have booked my B&b! We are having difficulty booking B&Bs for the Phillipe Karl course as there are many very organised people oout there who have booked everything! We do have our warm cottage for next January though.

My new saddle arrived and I have only sat on it for 2 mins but Duke approved immediately. It needs a little shim till his back returns to fullness having waited do long for it.

Jean in the yard had now finished her CraioSacral training and has started work on Duke. Much as I like Amanda who talked to us last summer Jean is very good and also knows Duke so well. On friday she gave him a session and the release in his poll made me a bit tearful! These dratted teeth issues really had caused problems in his TMJ . I can't wait to work on him tomorrow.

On a plus note we have walked through water wink and closed a gate after us at last. I have really found him maturing and now the new saddle is here is is going to go to Pattie and Sophie a few times and over to Lesley Van Kelsey to improve me and get us out and about. However, I want to wait till the weather and light improves a bit for the towing. It's the coming home that's the problem.

I need to get all my training in now before the worlds problems catch up with us and Gary is home full time. Rather stressful times as Queensland's flooding has caused huge global problems in shipping and a very big shipping line has gone into Chapter 11 directly because of it. Lots of phone calls here all day and night so Gary is back operating at overstretch. Lots of home cooked meals when he is here and only secret spending on horsey things!

Tilly moving very well and I have started to get her ready for photo shoots for sale; very sad but the right thing for her. Whisper is such a dear but boy the hair that comes off her! Like Claude I expect. Looking forward to the fields drying a bit to get going in her new saddle (second hand) as she finds the arena a bit boring. They are looking good and this year I have added barley straw to their diet as couldn't get oat straw and it is doing them good.

Looking forward to the camp. What about lunch? Is there a village shop? Does the milkman deliver?

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« Reply #7 on: Jan 31st, 2011, 6:53pm »

Do not worry Alex, there is a good village shop 1 mile away - and 2 pubs there also! In fact every village has a pub , and usually good food too!
Glad Duke going well in his new saddle - who would have thought Oz flooding would have affected you so much? And you missed your hols because of the snow - you must be weather prone!
The farrier did not come on Sat, because of flu, so today hasnt been the beginning of our riding again.
Charlie spent Sun morning taking money at the Sheriff P to P, well supported as its a charity ev ent , for the air ambulance. A valuable service for all us riders!
I ve read the Secretariat book[ tho have missed the film], an interesting read, I know it was 40 yrs ago, but the racing industry no doubt the same still. Secretariat was backed at 17 months , and fit for racing soon after the next New year , so less than 2 yrs old when he was first on the track. Unlike many 2 yr olds he came out as a 3 yr old and did even better, many 2 yr olds having burnt out over the winter - is it any suprise!? They race nearly every week and so immature in physique.Secretariat had a heart twice the size of an ordinary horse, which is why he was able to do so well- a total freak of nature.
Some of the USA phrases were hard to understand
'sloppy track' [ wet racetrack]
'hot walker' groom who walks horses after exercise to cool them down
'caught a hawk saw' - fraid I didnt work that 1out, but probably means horse did poorly!
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 1st, 2011, 07:54am »

Sea Biscuit had an enlarged heart and lungs as well
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 4th, 2011, 09:13am »

I think super athletes, horse or human etc , do have this extra capacity - unlike us mere mortals!
Charlie and I have now had 2 rides on shod, clipped and hogged horses! Ben and Wills look so different shawn of their hairy ness.[ Guinness not done yet , and we re running out of clipper blades!]
C walked Wills for first half hour, and rode back, both days. As the road is blocked for roadworks there was little traffic -- but there are plenty of cones, red plastic barrier things , and the yellow machinery. In fact Wills good at all that , and once ridden as long as C only controlled him through halter [ under bridle ] he didnt mind. He just hates the bit ! We are considering a hackamore , but would like to try before we buy!
Today racehorses passed us , so Ben was a little 'up' , but otherwise , despite the wind , we had a good ride. Feels very good to be on board again. Hard to believe Ben is 19 now. I ll need to keep 'nursing' his hocks , but I think school is hardest on him , so he ll be a straight line hacking horse. I know of a few horses his age, with a bit of hock damage, that still are hunting fit - but they never do circles or backing up!
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 10th, 2011, 3:34pm »

From the various responses I've been getting I'm confident that we're going to have a good-sized group at the summer camp cheesy

So far about 7 people have expressed interest, plus a couple who fancy coming just for the weekend. But if you haven't made your mind up yet there's still time to do so - the cut-off point is 10 people.

I wonder if the local racehorse yard owner would let us have a pootle around his yard one day......or would he back his charges against us on his gallops? Now there's a thought!
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 11th, 2011, 4:51pm »

Only if it's on the steeplechase course as otherwise what's the point? grin
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 12th, 2011, 10:33am »

I m sure Tim would ;let us lookaround. He does have an open day in Sept , but I suppose thats to get propective owners interested. He hasnt a full steeplechase course , but a full 3/4 mile gallop. Today as we walked by 2 horses were ending their uphill gallop, which perked up our lot !
Our 3 are still being angels, despite the roadworks on some days being noisy/rattly/within a foot or so of us!
We are planting hedges which will surround the schooling paddock. They wont be big by the sumer , but therell be electric fencing too- we have miles of the thick green tape!
C is teaching quite alot now , today he visits the big beautiful Hannovarian we had during last years camp.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 14th, 2011, 10:09am »

The comment about the Steeplechasing was a riposte to Liz, which I now realise was on ordinary e-mail , Judith!!!

So much going on with Duke I feel in overload mode brain wise. I find him such a teacher but I get quite despondent about my poor capabilities. I should have a lesson today on one of the school horse but I am crying off as it will be so cross and going badly after the teenager's have ridden it all weekend that I can't see the benefit to me. I know I can get the horse going better and so there is a benefit to the horse but it will be same old same old tomorrow for him and I will be exhausted!

I am going to lunge my Flamencoing horse over a jump instead and revisit trailer loading ready for Thursday and his trip to Sophie and Pattie. I think I will start to look for another yard with better hacking for next year for him as there is too much road work on narrow lanes in the village here. There are few reliable people to go with as the good one left sadly.

Duke can get quite het up about things in a lesson situation and then take a while to go forwards after but it does help develope your sticky seat.

One issue we have at the moment is when offering more rein he takes it quite well but then snatches very quickly and strongly. I took ages teaching him to take the rein at all and I can ride him forwards better now with a contact and shorter reins but it can become a bit of an argument. He gets quite cross. I lift him up when he does this and put him on parole whilst still riding forwards but he can still get me he is so quick. I do think it is improving but it doesn't help when being told from the ground that I am allowing him to develop a yaw and should have him in short all the time and maybe a flash?// Hey ho, things for camp maybe?
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 14th, 2011, 8:54pm »

Alex- i m sure the 2 ladies will keep you right ie correct re Duke and his outline! I agree that school horses arent going to teach you much, and often it is unfair to even show them a nicer way, when they are going to hauled about from every other rider. Who is telling you to keep him short? Is it worth having lessons with this person? [ not sure about this , as C used to have lessons with a teacher/dressage judge, and of course she wanted contact and shortning, and a flash!, in the ned C stopped lessons as Wills so unhappy, but of course its always usefl to hav lessons with a judge! This teacher/judge was an Olympic dressage rider , but horses just had to knuckle under and work hard , whether they were tense or unhappy or not , just had to do it]
Dont underestimate your capabilities- you know when a horse is happy in his work, and when he s going well, and thats a thing some so called high up competitors havnt got. It might be good to have better hacking - horses just love to get out and go. schooling isnt that interesting for them, really.I suppose it depends on the goal you re aiming for.
Have you had any luck with selling the chestnut firecracker? We only know of people wanting 'dopes on ropes' , which are imposiible to come by!
Riding for us is good,the boys behaving well. Today we came across 10 racehorses[ I thought it was the hunt!, as did Ben] and Wills got ' up' for a while. Guinness couldnt have cared less, even with Wills plungeing about ahead of him. Tessa cant believe he s so good!
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