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« Thread started on: Apr 28th, 2009, 07:09am »

Whilst the horses are doing fine , Charlie schooling a Highland , backing a WPB palomino, and usual teaching & riding , another cow drama comes along .
Yesterday, we went to bring in a heifer due to calve. When we got to field calf born and sucking nicely. Great!! However , as it continued to rain we thought they ought to come in, so went to bring them down. Calf shivering , as mum hadnt licked him . Of course the calving was in furthest corner , so took ages to get both in. Mum hates calf and tried to attack it in box. So, she [ her name is Berry , she and Holly were xmas calves 2 years ago] is now tied up in the old A I stalls , not proper byre stalls , but needs must. Charlie got stomach tube and cholostrum from neighbour [again!] to make sure the cold calf had enough food to last the night. He wouldnt suck mum again , but made the most pathetic noises. I massaged him with a towel for half an hour to warm him up.
This morning mum still not interested . At least calf sucked , with help of kick bar, so he s fed for a few hours. Its quite rare that this happens. We knowq the routine , having had various foster calves to put on over the years . How long it takes her to get the idea , or whether she ever will is a total unknown.
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 30th, 2009, 10:04am »

no change so far , little calf is a brave soul , keeps trying despite the kicks and lack of maternal love. Mother ids still tied up to stop her attacking him , although there may be a glimmer of hope there - she actually licked him once this morning.
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« Reply #2 on: May 6th, 2009, 2:51pm »

A short update on the cow and calf. Its now over a week since he was born [ I ve tried noty to name him ] .So far mother is still tied up. She 'allows' him to suck from one side , firstly it was only 1 teat , then another , now he s beginning to steal across to further hind teat. He has to be brave to do this as she s still handy with her feet. At least we can use the kick bar much less, except when I strip out milk from untouched quarters , which is happening less. Yesterday she actually licked him all over his face - he was so pleased! I ve been doing it for him , as he so misses being licked/groomed .

We are hacking out the just backed palomino - he is an intelligent boy who likes to see new things. But this morning he had an extra new thing when Ben escaped from the shed and crossed the ha-ha to join Merry grazing in his field! ben seems to quite like the palomino colour ,or Merrys character , because he wasnt a bully at all!
Charlie had a good day at Todmorden , and hopes to return for another clinic. Should anyone wish to join this area s activities , do get in touch.
Although the weather aint too good , at least the ground is soft enough for some good hacks .Hope everyone is enjoying their horses!
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« Reply #3 on: May 7th, 2009, 2:07pm »

I'm so glad this little calf is thriving despite his lack of maternal love and care - I've almost not dare read the next update worrying whether he's surviving! Perhaps his mother is now getting the hang of this maternal thing - I sure hope so! He certainly sounds a hardy little soul. I guess you have been spending time being his surrogate mum! I love the idea of a cow blog - how's the rest of them doing?
Funny you should mention about Ben liking particular colours (palomino) - I read an article recently that suggested that some horses favour other horses of a particular colour and are more likely to be friendly with horses the same colour that their mother liked!
Did anyone watch the very strange programme called 'Live like an animal' when 2 volunteers lived as horses? It did give some slight insights into the behaviour of horses but I found it very superficial and a bit sensationalist. One of the volunteers got quite badly kicked and it totally destroyed her confidence around the horses with very little attempt to exonerate the horse or try to support her to be comfortable around horses again.
The weather her has been pretty grotty - strong wind and rain although today is at least dry so enjoyment of my horses has been confined to some 'bonding grooming' in the barn! As I get older I am in danger of becoming the 'fair weather rider'!
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« Reply #4 on: May 8th, 2009, 11:21am »

Hi Judith,

Any further news on the calf?

Hope all is well.

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« Reply #5 on: May 8th, 2009, 6:44pm »

Today mum and calf were released from the AI pens , into a big pen in the shed. Mother calling to her baby, and very attentive , but he is only 'allowed' to suck the teats on her left hand side!! Somehow he mangaes to convince her to stand still, but no way will she let him suck the other side - the hooves soon start flying. She is licking him well ,though, and dispite his neglect he is a happy soul. I spent ages grooming/'licking' him with a damp towel, which he used as a cue to suckle in the days when a kick bar was necessary.
So , we ll leave them inside for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. At least she s not tied now , and can water & feed herselfl
A second heifer , Rhianna, is due soon - we have her inside in case of mishaps......

I have an advert on a cattle website for more JerseyxB Blues , no replies yet.[ am I mad, wanting more?]

I missed the 'live like a horse' programme, but have heard other bad reports. We saw some of the the ?Anna Tolstoy programmes - hated her silliness over riding a barrel racer , but her trainer was a good N H person [ cant remember his name, somehwere in Montana] Doubly hated the Russian one , there is no excuse for barbaric killing in these days. I m sure these herders could obtain and use a gun.
Whats everyone doing with their horses now good weather is here? C , myself and a pal are meeting up on the north yorks moors on Mon for a 12 mile ride. Wills hasnt seen this [always on his toes] horse before , so heres hoping he doesnt copy and start leaving the ground.....
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« Reply #6 on: May 13th, 2009, 12:08pm »

Great news on the calf Judith, so how did the ride go?
Was Wills on his best behaviour or did he copy the other horse?
You could always pass him over to Charlie if he got too over heated smiley smiley
I'm sorry I would have been chicken and would have taken Ben, he's just soooooooooo good.

I did watch some of that programme but I found parts quite distressing so that put me off.

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« Reply #7 on: May 13th, 2009, 6:16pm »

Oh no, Charlie was riding Wills - he s too too much for me. In fact , he was totaly good . We had a lovely ride through woodland and over moors , not fast as we were on stony tracks for a lot of it. I was on Ben who just glided along on his own timetable . As sson as we passed halfway he moved up a gear! Paulines Quest was also a good boy , but she had hunting tack on , to make sure!
Pauline and I havean idea - it goes on from my PARK & RIDE idea. What we need is a uk list of farms /yards etc who would allow people to stay in horsebox or wherever , stable /paddock horse , and be given good intructions for a days ride [or more ] If it is done informally there d be little paperwork or whatever , you d just have alist to ring , and get the maps or whatever once you were there. Anyone think this could be done[ other than the expensive holidays you can do] ? Just a thought!

Apparently Charlies your horse interview is on a rural tv channel, that we dont get. [ we re mean and just have freeview] Can it be recordedoff ? I d love a copy, or know how to find it on the web.

I had my first Skype session today - talking and seeing Kathie and Luke 12 thousand miles away. Mind you , it makes me miss them all the more,......

The demo in Leics is looming - this Sat we are at Ulverscroft . It will be interesting to see Judith Edwards work.
We got the first pic through of a foal by herman out of a mare we bred - the vet scanned her not in foal , so only this spring was the pregnancy discovered ! A beautiful coloured filly.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14th, 2009, 12:08pm »

Thats sounds like a great idea Judith, it would be great to ride out with like minded people as well.

You may be in luck regarding the dvd, apparantely I can record from the sky + onto dvd so I'll give it a go and let you know. If I can I'll drop it in when I come over to Helmsley, I should tie in with you and have a SS with Ben................Bliss smiley smiley
Its a great interview, both Charlie & Herman look great, Charlie seems very relaxed with the camera.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15th, 2009, 8:27pm »

That would be fantastic if you could get a recording !
I now work at Driffield on Fri s , doing A T .So if you couldnt get across I could always pick it up thwen.

I ve a brand new calf out of heifer Rhianna, this time alls well. Other heifer and calf now bonded and fine. Phew!
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« Reply #10 on: May 18th, 2009, 11:41am »

Hi Judith,

Well I'm on the right track, I recorded onto a dvd at the weekend, albeit that it turned out blank!!!
I now need to somehow tune the dvd into the tv!!! I think I need to dig out the instructions.
Will let you know smiley

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« Reply #11 on: May 20th, 2009, 08:11am »

All fingers and toes crossed that it works next time!
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« Reply #12 on: May 21st, 2009, 12:31pm »

I'm so pleased that the brave calf has finally got his mother's love and care!All your surrogacy work has paid off! His name should be Valiant! Plus another calf safely delivered too - great news all round? Do you have any more imminent bovine births? Any luck with finding more Jersey x B Blues?
The ride idea sounds good and something that would appeal to me (definitely riding with like minded people as they seem to be rather thin on the ground where I am!) but would perhaps take some organising to get a UK wide list. A starting point would be perhaps to do it locally and grow on from there.
A thought about the dvd - maybe Charlie could do his own dvd to go along with his book? Then we could all share the experiences too! I'm afraid I only have freeview too so no help there!
Incidentally Paula - where are you based? Anywhere near South Yorkshire?
I look forward to hearing more on the cows adventures... grin
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« Reply #13 on: May 22nd, 2009, 8:31pm »

Valiant is a great name for the calf . I do try not to call them names , but it happens. We d taken to calling him Chuck...as his mum is Berry. But Valiant is better. No other calves for at least a month ...perhaps during summer camp? A few years ago we had [ I think] Lucy Rees here giving a talk and about 30 watching her , C and I were delivering twin calves out the back and missed it all!
No luck with getting more , I had a contact number that I cannot get to pick up or get back to my left messages , a dealer who has similarly ignored me , plus an ad on an internet site. But I shant give up
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 1st, 2009, 12:21pm »

Hi Vanessa,

I'm based near Driffield so not too far away.
Whereabouts in South Yorks are you?

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