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« Reply #165 on: Nov 17th, 2010, 4:36pm »

Gosh, hasn't it gone quiet here? These early dark evenings are so miserable aren't they? Added to that our heavy clay field is so wet that doing anything with the horses is almost impossible as they trash the ground in no time - oh for an outdoor (even indoor) school! I'd better get on with winning the lottery!

Not much in the way of news from this corner of Beds - it's cold, wet, gale force icy blasts and Nins has had to be parked back in her stable 24/7 after the farrier's visit this morning. Having been doing Ok-ish with the heartbars in place, when the farrier took them off to trim her feet great chunks of sole came off too, there was blood where the wall met the sole and a very squishy area at the toe which was oozing blood as well. This is not good and required an immediate call to the vet and another visit tomorrow from the farrier plus possibly the vet. In herself she seems fine which is rather contradictory.

I was just congratulating myself on finishing with mucking out every day as well. Poor Nins, she is not pleased to be stabled and Clod is pretty miserable standing outside her stable and looking very lonely sad

Vanessa, what's the news from you - job, grand-child, Strider?

Judith, what's happening with the new farmhouse? I bet you're fed up with that caravan by now?! Any moving in date sorted out yet?

How's everyone else?

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« Reply #166 on: Nov 18th, 2010, 12:04pm »

It may be quiet because people can't stay logged in to post! I've had real problems getting on here! It let me log in but then every time I tried to move pages to post it kicked me out and told me guests cannot post! This is about the 10th time I've tried to get on - new website teething problems maybe...?
I agree Liz - the weather has been very cold and the dark nights are so depressing - my ponies aren't too keen on the weather either and seem quite happy to be tucked up in their stables by 4pm! Poor Nins - guess she's not so happy to be in her stable - is it laminitis? blood in hoof wall/sole is certainly indicative of that hideous condition. If it is, it could be an indication of Cushings laminitis, particularly occurring this time of year. I've been thro' this whole scenario so am speaking from bitter experience. What has your vet said Liz? However, don't despair it (Cushings or metabolic syndrome) can be controlled and I have now managed to keep my Cushings boy sound for 19 months. If you want to e mail me direct Liz, please do. I do hope Nins recovers very soon. Incidentally, Judith how are the 2 laminitics that you cared for earlier in the year, after their improvement on the new regime?
Judith - how is life in the caravan? Gosh after all the gales, rain and freezing weather I hope you are both coping! I do hope the new farmhouse refurbishment (if I can call the major building works that!) is soon complete and you can resume 'normal' life.
S is actually getting regular work due to my unemployed status! I have managed to ride and do groundwork on a regular basis and have even braved the howling wind and rain! He's still feisty as always and tries different evasions - always up for his games. But we are building a better relationship. He's even been clipped - and after my initial trials with him - sports massager/hand held clipper de-sensitisation - he was the model of superb behaviour for the actual clipping - he actually fell asleep during the process! I was very proud!
My grandaughter is progressing slowly - her hips are still in but we had a scare a couple of weeks ago with popping sounds from her hip region - after examination the consultant said hips were definitely in situ and the sound was probably the muscle twanging across the bone! Poor mite - it has settled again and she is now actually pushing up on her hands and knees. They are on hol in warmer climes at the moment and my daughter has told me they've had lots of pool time. Great exercise for her so hopefully she will have made leaps and bounds by the time they get back.
Can we now have a new topic for summer camp 2011? I shall continue my job hunt!
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« Reply #167 on: Nov 23rd, 2010, 09:34am »

Hello Everyone!
I too have had problems logging in, and shall get Peter onto it!
Its nice to hear mesages from the outside world! We still dont have our own computer up and running , and sometimes our mail enable isnt keen on working on computers we 'borrow'.
Yes, our life has been turned upside down. We are still in the small caravan , and its getter colder...makes everyday jobs a bit of a trial. The house seems nearly ready - but has been so for a week! Still no water or heating , or kitchen etc , but electrics are now running . So at night when the builders have gone, I can put the cats indoors with a heater!
We arent riding the horses, its a fulltime job doing the house - seems I go to B&Q nearly day! Painting attics out has taken ages ,, and I had to go out onto the scaffolding to paint the outside attic windows [ curing a fear of high ladders!]
I hope its now easy enough to get onto the forum here , at least, Vanessa, you can use your 'leisure' time to work with Strider a lot , I m sure he looks forward to the challenge.
Liz, I hope Nins is on the road to recovery.
Most days we hear trotting of horses on the road, from the racing yard nearby.We have also had the hunt through, which Ben found very exciting ![ Wills finds anything exiting , and he s cutting up the fields badly.] Guinness is as sane as ever. The 2 youngsters , both big 17 handers , we would love to find new homes for. If anyone would like 1 ,please get in touch! Cheap to N H homes!
When I write agin, I sincerely hope we ll be at least in the house, even if camping out!
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« Reply #168 on: Nov 26th, 2010, 7:14pm »

Glad to hear you are surviving Judith and Charlie. I have thought of you in the caravan. Freya went on a field trip yesterday outside Durham and rang faintly hysterically on their way back whilst trying to thaw in a service station.

I like no heat in a bedroom and the window open so I have found my neck a bit stiff in the morning now I have short hair as it is obviously a bit chilly out there!

Horses: l am so sorry to hear of Nins' travails - hoofs are so complicated. I have just changed Duke to a barefoot trimmer in Rutland and do feel relieved. Very revealing but a chat for another posting I think.

I am working hard on my riding and started lessons on a riding school horse. What a crock!!!! What a lot I am learning!!! First is to stop accepting that just because I am riding a school horse I also have to accept the tack he is usually ridden in. First lesson was to be a pole lesson to include canter. Out came this poor little thing in a flash and martingale. I grumbled but gave in and rode it as it came. BLOODY HELL!!!!! Where is the conversation with the mouth with this tut and tat on? No feel and immediately apparent no stop and definitely no feel from the seat. Fast forward to yesterday when I rode him alone( and avoiding being bitten to death untacking and rugging up after), and the no stop without hauling on the mouth became very obvious when I hadn't got the stirrrup lengths right before I got on and as I wouldn't haul but kept trying to sort myself out with seat and breathing I eventually had to ask a passing instructor to help me or do whole session without stirrups as I wasn't going to jump off till I got a halt from the seat. She teaches at the riding yard and mostly jumping and thought I was odd not having my knees round my chin! By the end of that session I wanted to take the little horse home. So educational. A livery owner at that yard on her Gelderlander shared the arena with me and I was so pleased I wasn't on Duke who would have hated the shouting and the sound of the whip smack. Double bridle too. Poor horse shouted at because he didn't stay in canter but as he wasn't walking out how could he? She told me that she had learnt everything from a certain NZ instructor who comes over twice a year and it was this instructor that Tilly found so upsetting she had to be moved out of her stable and out of hearing when she is there. I am so proud of my lip buttoning skills!!!

Bad news for me is Duke has grown out of his saddle so I have a borrowed one from the saddle shop and I can feel the difference as can Duke. He really hates the cold weather on his face and up his nose poor thing.

Really looking forward to going on holiday this Christmas although it is difficult to think of cotton and linen clothes in this weather.

My current theme (sorry) is half halts from the seat.

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« Reply #169 on: Nov 27th, 2010, 6:51pm »

I think Peter has sorted any glitches re logging on.
Alex, it is so difficult riding a horse so differently 'trained' , and quite upsetting. With N H we seem to 'know' what horses are thinking , and the resignation ,oor worse- suffering - they put up with is so terrible - and so unneccessary.
Well the snow has put paid to C s day tommorrow - helping with a saddling problem. This would have been interesting , as the owner had doubly checked all physical things like back, saddle , even stomach ulcers , so the mental side would be intreqing. I ll let you know when C does go there and the result , but it will be some time , as the snow is to stay for at least a fortnignht.
LUCKILY we are now in the house, not the caravan! On Weds tjhe boiler fired up , and we ve been keepinmg it on most of the time1 So we have heating , hot water , fluish toilet indoors , nearly all mod cons! What a difference. We are only in 1 of the attic rooms , with dusty bare boards but a great improvement. I had a complete panic though, as I d not fully closed the attic door and the cats escaped. I caught cartman on the stairs, bu this mum had followed the 'fresh' air and gone out through the non doored entrance [ has a sheet of insulation infront of it, not flush to the wall obviously, . As this was forst thing yest , I had a very worrying day as to whether she d ever be seen again, but a couple of hours afterthe builders went , she appeared io the hall downsyairs! I ve been very careful ever since....
For thos eof you who are owed an email, I have no addresses to hand on 'borrowed ciomputer access, but can REPLY to either the new addresses [ me or c @ naturalhorsetrainer or @ ryemanorstud etc]or the old [ charles.wilson@ sinn etc - my old one dosnt work] when I access the mail enabler. Hope that makes sense! Still no landline number , but the mobile works well with an open velux window!
Still havent ridden at all, but walking round the snowy 17 acres yest, I thought it will be a good field for the summer camp.....
A special thank you to the anon who sent me a caravanning magazine .....am I converted to caravanning - I think nopt! Why do all of them have adesign fesature that means the head of the bed is only seperated from the tiolet by a paperthin wall! ? And they lack insulation.....
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« Reply #170 on: Nov 27th, 2010, 6:56pm »

The resigmation/suffering of the non N H horses , that should read in the above! I think horses learn to switch off as the only escape from the pain and naggging- those sensitive ones who cant are the ones with 'problems' mos tof the time. Perhaps, Alex, you could ask to remove some of the tack ? C often comes across horses 'trsained' by a very high up B HS lady . All of them have had their heads hauled about and held in in lessons - and the riders never seem to question it. Yet this same lady says she s interested in N H, A T etc . Who in the BH S world teaches good hands and self carriage?
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« Reply #171 on: Nov 29th, 2010, 1:16pm »

Oh being on a non NH yard I see the resignation/switched off/multi problems every day! Funny - everyone thinks my horses are naughty but I know they are free and able to make choices and aren't held in horrendous positions with pieces of tack! I have at least persuaded one person to abandon her flash noseband - and she's happy with the result - more to the point so is her horse! It's very hard being on a 'traditional' yard and doing things differently but I'm never swayed from NH. I find it even harder having 'traditional' lessons on someone else's horse (wouldn't do that to S and just think he would explode with indignance anyway!) with the BHS II owner so stopped a while ago! It's bad enough watching others...
Judith - thank goodness you are in the house, albeit in the attic (hot air rises so probably the warmest spot now you have heating!). This snow is causing havoc - here in south Yorkshire we haven't had as much as the north of the county but it still brought the main roads to a grinding halt this morning. Have you managed to get all the animals indoors in their new accomodation? My boys do go out during the day but come in at night - the shetland and his buddy want to be in by 3.30pm and S is always waiting at the gate by 4pm! He's had a few days off (I rode last weds) but hope that I can ride sometime this week. We only have an outdoor school but it is a rideable surface even in freezing temps but if we get a whole heap of snow it won't be so good on his legs. S is still 'planting' himself - even with prior groundwork he sets off well then after a few transitions (walk/trot) he stops and refuses to move! I have ridden thro' this but he takes lots of my energy thrown at him! One thing is I never stay cold for long when working with him!
Hope everyone is managing in the snow - winter came early for sure! Brrr
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« Reply #172 on: Nov 30th, 2010, 08:19am »

Yes, the attic is warm - and we have incredible views from the Veluxes! The cats are very happy up there , rather than in an outhouse. All the horses are in at nights , but its a bit of a squash, and ben is in the cows calving box! We have resorted to putting haylaghe outdoors for them , otherwise they are ready to come in by 1 pm. We still have 9 cattle outside , the incalf heifers and cows , and we are making a pen in the hayshed for them. The only space ther ewas where the caravan was parked up, so that had to be moved [by hand!]. We have about 4 or 5 inches of snow - about half the amount theres a t Sinnington - just that 17 miles away from the moors makes quite a difference.
I hope everyone is coping ok with the weather - it may look xmassy - but bah humbug!
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« Reply #173 on: Dec 7th, 2010, 5:18pm »

I give up it just keeps crashing angry obviously I am so boring cry
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« Reply #174 on: Dec 8th, 2010, 1:08pm »

Who's boring? It's technology and computers which are boring, frustrating and often likely to be thrown through windows - now how often have you been tossed out of a window?

At the risk of boring everyone sufficiently to jump out of windows - here's yet another update on the Yellow Peril. The vet insists that the second xrays indicate a doubling of the pedal bone rotation from 3 degrees to 7 (right) and 8 or 9 degrees on the left. However, in herself she is bright-eyed, shiny coated, grumpy as hell and giving Claude a hard time - in other words fairly normal for her.

We're re-applying the bandaging every 2nd day now and will try and stretch that to every 3rd day - it's just a matter of protecting the new sole as it slowly grows over the raw flesh rather than poulticing an open wound. Whilst having the heartbars on makes it easier to keep the bandages on, the edges do tend to wear through the tape quite easily. We've still got rock hard ground here but no snow unlike you ruffy tuffy northerners.

Our kitchen has been a temporary feed room for a few days, it's got horses' meals in it (to stop them freezing), sugar beet to stop it freezing, iodine (for Nins' soles) to stop it freezing - somewhere in there is a corner for us to prepare our meals smiley

How's everyone coping with the ground and snow? Oh, how I envy you lucky soils with outdoor schools.

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« Reply #175 on: Dec 8th, 2010, 4:49pm »

Hello Teams. It has been a thingyens of a job logging onto this site, so I thought I would have another go tonight. Still no joy, so I have re registered. That seems to have 'taken'.

I take it that you won't be going on a touring holiday this year then Judith? Caravaning is quite fun for 24 hours until a bath calls, but that is it. What on earth you had to go through in this dreadful weather and sharing with another, is too ghastly to contemplate. The imagination has no difficulty in imagining the result of the paper thin walls next to the bog. It is bad enough when there are several rooms and a coridoor separating them! Thank the good Lord that you are now in the warm and dry, with the luxury of hot running water once again. How long before it is finished? Insallah or in sight? I suppose you are using a primus stove to cook on, or have you the luxury of an oven and cooker yet? Let us know the gory details.

I have every sympathy with your livery situation Alex. We are fortunate in that most of the Oak Farm inmates are quite 'aware'. Even the show jumping girls are careful of their horses' mouths. Although one of them is still to be found in a Dutch Gag, grackle and standing martingale. There are others though who are so old fashioned and entrenched in dogma, sayings and 'tradition' that they will not consider opening their minds to even tiny bits of common sense. The very worst are the driving Lady and Gent. Horses stabled 24/7 and excercised rarely, and then only to be trotted at a good pace on roads. It teaches one a certain measure of diplomacy at least. Or perhaps it comes under the heading of 'improving one's emotional fitness!'

Since I came off and really hurt myself a couple of months ago I have not been riding much due to the immense amount of time it took swellings to go down. I am now 'hot to trot' and am taking my poor orange neddy for a potter down to the Pub in the next village. Along with two Shires and 13 horses and ponies. This our Christmas outing. When we return we are having mulled wine, then a party. All outside. This should be great fun as long as everyone stays safe. I am hoping Carole Lockyer will be joining us. She could do with a bit of cheer in her life at the moment.

Had a go at 'Horse Agility' last Sunday. Highly entertaining. We will certainly do it again.

Vannessa - how's that Grandchild of yours getting on?

Hope everyone is fit and well, and more than anything, that Nins makes a recovery soon.

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« Reply #176 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 11:14am »

I think everyone is doing more horsey stuff than us! Even Liz is at least handling and mimistering to her horse- all we do is set out ,bed and feed ,and bring in! Guinness , I m sure is a bit bored , and tries to hamstring Wills. Last Saturday we forgot the shooting was on next door, so there has been a lot more deep footprints added to the small filed.... despite the snow and frozen ground ,the horses still cut it up! Their feet look very good , unshod but wearing down just the right amount . Most of our ridden work will be on roads - although the racing trainer nearby has offered us the use of his gallops- now could we incorporate a gallop session to the summer camp??
'Old and weary' - what a good name - I fancy stealing it from you, as its how I feel! I suppose the ned is in sight , buit the noise and dust are such that I cant believe it ll ever be clean and done! The team of decorators are here, and much of the walls is painted or lined ready for papering. But there are still plumbers /joiners/builders going to and fro. The cottage is small , but will look nice for visiting horsmanship students!! I m being 'educated' by newspapers such as the Daily Sport and Star, which are left every day , along with huge amounts of other rubbish!
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« Reply #178 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 09:57am »

Dear Alex,
I hope this wasnt a long mail that has got 'wiped' somehow?
Now that the thaw has ended I also hope everyone isnt struggling too hard in the frost/snow. Tomorrow, we are told , we get a phone line - but I do doubt it! Roll on spring!
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« Reply #179 on: Dec 20th, 2010, 1:55pm »

Yes I was wiped angry

I wish you all very best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. We hope to fly tomorrow for a family holiday in Costa Rica via Heathrow! Having got Gary back last night several days late and via City airport we are going tonight and staying in the Holiday Inn. I have done no riding and really miss it laughlus my trousers are a little tight.

I am taking my Phillip Karl book to swot before his course starts in January. I do hope it warms up a bit as 4 days sitting in a barn will be testing. I am still riding the 2 school horses when I can and although the plan was to use them to improve my canter neither have really got the balance to canter at all! I am doomed to trot for quite a while but I learn so much each time. One horse can't stop and the other can't go and of course no ground work allowed! I do take off the flash and martingale though.

Poor Duke has cut his foot which probably happened when he was turned out without his over reach boots. At least his timing is good. Just hearing Gary on the phone and it seems flight may cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!
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