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« Reply #30 on: Jul 2nd, 2009, 8:38pm »

Dear Vanessa,
those 2 blinking cows calved today! The first was at 1 .30 am , Charlie had stayed up , and got me up once the calf was here , so that we both could get her sucking. I was needed because this calf is the size of a spaniel"!"!! From the cleansing it looks as if mum had had twins gestsating and lost one. The live baby so weak she could hardly stand , but once sucked [ and she was keen ] she gained strength and now is looking fine.
Then at 2 pm , the other girl started . Now as she had to have all strength of C applied to calving aid last year , we watched for 1/2 hr , then got her to where we could put ropes on the calf's feet. Sure enough another big calf , a heifer , which took all C and mine's strength to get out [ there was no space for the calving aid] . We have since got her sucking twice , and all s very well. So, I m sorry to say there shouldnt be any calving during the camp. 2 years ago I had 2 bottle fed calves [ Schweppes and Jacobs Creek , after the names of the bottles] during camp, and had volunteer feeders!
Although not on the official itinerary I ll be pleased to take anyone round the livestock. Our bull returned from his 'holidays' yesterday. I suppose he must have smelt different to usual , as the girls looked at him for about 5 minutes, then suddenly seemed to remember who he was , and told him in no uncertain terms that he was welcome back........
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« Reply #31 on: Jul 4th, 2009, 8:04pm »

By the way
a wonderful picture of Ben has appeared on his erstwhile show rider's website.
wwwpeter-richmond.com
aaaaahhhhhh happy days!
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« Reply #32 on: Jul 6th, 2009, 7:25pm »

Hi Judith
Just a quickie - yes please I'd love a guided tour of your cattle! Probably better that your cows calved before camp - especially as you and Charlie were up most of the night assisting mums & babies - a minimus & maximus! Your cows certainly like to keep you busy! We at camp can just 'coo' at them without all the hard work that you've both put in!
A quiet cow blog for a week or two!
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« Reply #33 on: Jul 7th, 2009, 09:34am »

Minimus [ or Bridget the midget as we call her] is probably visually impaired , if not blind. So, she ll be inside with her mum . cant these cows stop having dramas this year?
I spent all yeasterday cleaning cottage , as its now raining I should have left it until today.....
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« Reply #34 on: Jul 7th, 2009, 10:55am »

Oh dear - visual impairment is not good news for Bridget I guess sad I guess you won't know yet if it's something that will rectify itself or if it's permanent. I do hope that her sight improves - if not I guess the outlook for her is grim - or maybe she will learn to manage and compensate for her sight - many animals do like your other calf with the dislocated hip. I've come across blind dogs & a horse with sight in only one eye but not a cow. My shetland is losing his periphal vision due to Cushings (tumour pressing on the optic nerve the vet tells me) but he manages just fine at the moment and you'd never know it at first glance of him. I noticed because I know him so intimately and picked up on it early.
Your cows have certainly taken centre stage this year! Here's hoping that this particular drama does not end in tragedy (please forgive the pun). I'm fervently hoping her sight improves and that your cows give you a break from drama for a while.
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« Reply #35 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 12:55pm »

Hi Judith
So how are the cows? Is it all quiet? I have missed my daily visits to see Bridget, and her family - how are they doing? and what of the others? No more dramas - just calm bovine life I hope! I so enjoyed visiting the herd and the de-horned heifers as well - when will the biggest ones be joining the main herd? Please do update the cow blog.
My yard owner has just bought 3 goat kids so that should make for interesting antics once they've settled in - especially as they are going to be resident in the paddock next to my shetland! I dread to think....
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« Reply #36 on: Jul 26th, 2009, 5:53pm »

hello Vanessa
4 of the new heifers have joined the main herd.Rocky was most interested. They have settled in fine ; I now have 19 cows and heifers , so next year there should be that 17 calves . The smallest 2 [ Ant and dec] have had to remain indoors . Minnie and Mouse and babies are still in the end-of-barn pen , to make sure neither calf goes through the bars of the big cattle pens [ as we are away, and tessa doesnt want dramas]
C s sister was a physio , and when i said Mouses baby still a little lame after her hip re placement , she thought that would be expected. I ve asked the vets too - we just have to 'monitor' the situation.
Vanessa, any time you need a cow fix, please just come along and see them. You d be most welcome.
Otherwise all cows ok, and the boys are with them. Again , this is to save Tessa a drama, as ben likes to crash through fences when he feels he is being ignored! Hopefully all the grass will keep him interested.
here in Dorset its wet and windy. So I m thinking of writing a liberrty leaflet , as it was suggested by campers. I m jotting a few things down , but have to say thwre are so many variables that one cannot prescribe a lesson, and as we know , you have to work with the horse you have at that moment in front of you.
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« Reply #37 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 09:42am »

Hi, Great news about your liberty leaflet Judith - there isn't very much published about that that I can find after a quick search just now and it owuld be sooo useful.
I was reading the trail of these cow messages and the talk of all that disbudding reminded me of when I used to raise calves as a small business with a friend. She and I used to buy in 4 or 5 from Gloucester Market each week, raise them for 6 weeks and sell then onto a chap who raised them for the next 12-15 months . It was great fun though a little cash heavy for the first few weeks until we could start selling! I used to do the disbudding - we went on a course (I think the NFU organised it) and learnt how to insert the anasthetic using a long needle around the eye socket, wriggling the needle to get it close to the horn eruption point - yuck sad Then we had to heat up a sort of soldering iron but it had a concave end about half an inch across which one had to sort of get under one edge of the baby horn and then get everything hot and then flip it the horn out. I used to end up doing it all becuase my friend couldn't cope with the smell of burning hair and the needle almost made her faint. Not my favourite job (I let her to do the stomach tubing!) but better than 4 or 5 pairs of horns 'playing' with you when you went into the stable to try and attach the owners to teats on buckets!
We gave it up after about 4 years as the price of calves was making it impossible to turn a profit, but a local famrer with a pure Jersey herd then asked us to raise his calves for him for a couple of years. It all seems such a long time ago now (I guess we were doing it in the early 1980s) so I suppose it is really!
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« Reply #38 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 9:32pm »

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I'm pleased to hear the cows are all doing ok. Mouse & Minnie & their babies were just so calm and settled together. No wonder Mouse's calf is such a big girl - getting milk from Mum & Grandma! Hopefully her hip will 'learn' to be in the right position and her lameness will diminish. They are a lovely extended family group and hopefully the little one will grow too.
Rocky will be having a proper 'field' day (forgive the pun!) with all those young ladies and lots of calves next year - hopefully without too many dramas!
The de-horning process sounds pretty horrendous but necessary and once done much safer for everyone - cows & people. My grandfather would never buy horned cattle with the exception of a short horn cow & her calf he once came back from market with. She was a gentle soul and her calf very lively. He was a man not given to sentimentality but I belive this one kind of got to him! He kept her for a couple of years which was most unusual and sold her on to a dairy farmer. I'm going even further back than you Liz on this - the 70's! How times have changed!
I have missed visiting the cows Judith so when I'm up in your parts I'll let you know and come and have my bovine fix!
The liberty leaflet sounds wonderful but I imagine very difficult to put down on paper. I know that Strider reacts differently on different occasions when we do liberty so to write down all variations would be quite a large task! The general 'gist' of situations would be most helpful though - I look forward to it!
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« Reply #39 on: Aug 1st, 2009, 09:18am »

A very sad time yesterday - Mouses calf 's hip had been giving cause for concern , and unfortunately the hip dislocated itself again. The vet was very disppointed , but assured us nothing else could be done , so she was put down. Mouse is calling for her every second [ and has done all night] . My only hope is a BBXJersey foster calf , Im waiting for 1 to be born . Keep fingers crossed.
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« Reply #40 on: Aug 1st, 2009, 09:49am »

Oh dear, how terribly upsetting for you and Mouse of course. Is there some organisation (like with horses) where you can advertise for an orphan for her or is it word of mouth? I hope you're successful finding one before her bag dries up - have you another calf that she might let in for a drink?
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« Reply #41 on: Aug 1st, 2009, 10:07am »

We have kept Minnie and calf in with her , as Bridget the midget was drinking from Mouse [ her sister!] as well as mum. I ve rung 2 jersey farms to see if they have a calf on the ground , one has one expected , the other has none. I could find a foster calf of whatever breeding fairly easily , from a local dairy farm , but obviously would like a one to add to herd in the future.
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« Reply #42 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 12:36pm »

Any joy with a foster calf for Mouse? Is she calming down after the loss of her calf? Is it like when a horse is put down, one leaves the body there for the others to see and acknowledge the death? Sorry this is all questions but I never had to put a calf to sleep so am interested.
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« Reply #43 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 4:55pm »

No, neither of the farms have supplied a calf , but luckily Mouse is calming down , and not shouting herself hoarse. I didnt witnss the putting down of the calf but C says Mouse did see the calf afterwards , but perhaps not for long enough.

I m working the 2 grey horses at liberty daily , before C does groundwork and riding .This is at last softening these braced,tense horses in a wonderful way. Both today were 1/2 asleep , and therefore bending happily through the poll. Their eyes , which had those steep worry lines , are also softening and becoming a better shape.
So far I ve no typing on the liberty stuff ...must ry harder!
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« Reply #44 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 10:30pm »

What a relief that Mouse is calming down and I guess it helps (or am I being too anthropomorphic, phew that's quite a word!) in hoping that having the others with her relaxes her. Will you keep searching out a foster calf for her - I guess finding one that has along term future with you rather narrow sdown the choices?

It sounds like you're making real progress with those two greys - and how great to see it transposing into their physical appearance - has Charlie noticed a difference in their riding?
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