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« Reply #15 on: Jun 2nd, 2009, 3:02pm »

Back from holiday now , hardly saw a horse - only coloureds were 2 shetlands somewhere in Belgium .
However , I have had a reply from one of the people contacted re more blue heifers , resulting in 6 being bought yesterday. I could pick out the pretty jersey crosses straight away, and have rescued them from being meat within the next year!
So, no new cob for me!Money spent on something that ll make more cash, hopefully. But I still yearn for a show cob ....rossttes are lovely!
Our horses have got very fat after a week of doing nothing , so bring thewm in fror a few hours daily. Wills created when C first rode him , back to old habits of plunging/bunnyhopping etc . No malice , he just wanted to have fun! Second ride he was nearly back to normal. Ben looks disgustedly at him , wondering why he s using so much energy! Ben is good at standing still when all this happens , and never tries to join in!
I need to practise the double liberty a bit more - ben is still leaden footed , but Wills disappears with anything over the mimimum amount of energy sent to him. I also need to handle the 2 yearlings - they are rather neglected, and soon turn wild! C has to write about weaning for Your Horse - its simple really , just dont bother till they are 10 months old and they ll just about do it themselves! I suppose he ll be writing a little more than that!
So, whats everyone doing? Vanessa- hows the pedestal? And Paula have you still got your big wooden one?[ that Ben could tip, he s so heavy?] Ben has never forgotten what to do and offers to put his feet on all sorts of unsuitable things .

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« Reply #16 on: Jun 7th, 2009, 8:53pm »

well, my cows seem to want to be part of this site , by creating dramas! Today, Mouse my 3/4 Jersey decided to calve [ not looking ready ,so a suprise] . However , it was evident that the calf was breach, and Charlie couldnt get it going with the calving aid. So, vet called , and she also couldnt budge the calf - not only was she
breach and stuck at the stifles, but slightly twisted aswell. So, caesarean was the only option. At this point we thought the calf ,with upside stone cold back legs showing , was a goner. However, the vet did her stuff ,giving Mouse an epidural etc ,and pulled out a breathing heifer calf![ The vet had felt her move but didnt tell us in case it didnt survive] Another hour and Mouse was stitched up [ 3 seperate layers of stitches ] then shown her baby - which she loves . We have fed her [bottle and mum to get strength up] and left them together.

C and I didnt get a ride this eve because of it - Ben and Wills are getting much too fat and need extra exercise. On Friday we got our haylage - 200 bales of excellent quality stuff , plenty of fodder for horses a nd cattle.
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 8th, 2009, 11:19am »

Hi Judith,

Well done on the new purchases, couldn't you get into showing cows? You could still get rosettes then smiley

Glad the c section went well, how are they both doing?
I do still have that pedestal, it's at the front of my house, I just use it to mix the horses feeds! What a waste really. I think it will outlive me, I can't remember the joiners name who built it but he obviously made things to last smiley I restain it every year but that's about all the care it gets, outside in all weathers.

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« Reply #18 on: Jun 9th, 2009, 4:35pm »

The cow is doing splendidly - she has the neatest incision and row of stitches [ not to be sexist , but a female hand is definitely better at that fiddly and small stuff]
However the lovely calf has difficulty standing. Its not the trauma of the birth , more like the reason why we couldnt get her out,. the twist in her pelvis seems to be caused by an imperfect hip joint , and she has little movement in it. So, tomorrrow morning she ll go to be xrayed at the surgery. It was pointed out to us that economically we may not wish to go down this route , but theres no question that we want her fixed , if at all possible. Fingers crossed , and I ll let you know how things go on ......
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 10th, 2009, 2:53pm »

This morning we took the little calf in the back of the car to vets. Xray showed dislocated hip, so ,with traction it was replaced - we were told afterwards they d never done that with a calf before! She can now walk with 4 legs not 3. Interestingly already her brain had worked out to move front legs first, then right hind, then drag the left hind , so at the moment she walks in that way - and seems suprised when the second hind leg moves ! Although mum on her own for 5 hours she was very patient , but it was a heart warmimg reunuion. Heres hoping it all satys in place....
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 06:26am »

Our email hasnt worked for a week- the lad that does all computer work for us is on holiday ....so this is my only cyber communication!
My little calf is now outside with mum and doing well. The new 6 heifers came yesterday - I ll be a 'real' farmer yet!
Ben is escorting 2 ponies ridden round farm. We ve also got Idaho, hwom we bred , come to be rebacked [shes 4] in order for her owner to ride her at summer camp. C has sat on her agin [ she s not been sat on since last year] without a problem. So , ben will have some else to escort. Its been raining so hard we ve not planned a long ride for a while. Of the friends who come with us , one has her a first ever foal [ part bred Cleveland Bay] , and has found that quite stressful , although mum and colt doing well. Other firend's horse slightly 'leggy' with occasional swelling down her hind leg . That particular firend is looking for a 15 hh ish forward going youngster - so if anyone knows of something suitable , let me know.[ must be good conformation , not too fine or cobby]
C and I have decided to go to RIHS , jst as spectators - the shopping is very good. he can watch the dressage next door , whilst I sit and watch the show classes. #
Charlie is giving 2 demos at Your Horse this November. They havbe shortened the show back to 2 days , so I m not needed [ I dont mind!] and there are no learning zones , again I ll not be needed. So I ll be able to enjoy the exhibition wiothout pressure. We ll take Herman down , but not Marie , who has had a baby , but it was a caesarian , and she s making very few plans!
The Horse & Hound has arived ....so I m off to see if theres nice coloroured cobs winning ,....and wondering why I never find one!
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 2:57pm »

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Wow! What alot has been happening whilst I've been extremely busy with work - trips to head office in London, training & lots of meetings! Very tedious indeed!
Another great outcome from a traumatic calving - I hope the little calf's hip has stayed put - so amazing that her brain's computed how to get about even with a dislocated hip. Glad she's now outside with Mum and thriving.
So Judith you've got your new heifers but no show cob -yet! I can't wait for summer camp now - so much to look forward to including meeting all your cattle in 'person'! grin as well as the brilliant activities too! All we need now is wall to wall sunshine which hasn't been very forthcoming recently! Maybe you could give us a guided tour of the cows? and then I can put faces to the names of all these cow dramas!
I remember Idaho - wasn't she amongst your herd of youngsters at camp last year? or was that her sister? That'll be great having her and her owner at camp - if it is her I remember she reminded me very much of Strider's Mum and a very confident girl.
Talking of Strider - he's is usual feisty self although he wasn't the other weekend when he got soaked to the skin in a deluge of rain & wind and was utterly grateful to come in and have his rug on! He soon got over it though! We have been doing some work - the pedastal (I've had to top it up & compact it more as all the rain had made it sink), riding out in traffic and liberty work (last time I did this he was so 'with' me and it felt fantastic!) as well as riding in the school. A friend (who does NH of a different variety) suggested I shake the reins at him(taking care not to shake the bit of course) when he planted as asking for a feel from him resulted in him biting my foot on that side! The shaking the reins did make him go forward but when I rode last night he didn't plant but dropped to walk without being asked and seemed to say 'ok shaking reins are old hat now' but I persisted and he did respond. I think he'll still be testing me forever!
I'm having traumas with my little spotted pony who is Cushings positive. He went down wth laminitis after he had his vaccinations in April and we can't get rid of it, despite endless box rest and trying the usual things. In fact he seems to be getting worse even though he hasn't seen a blade of grass for weeks! I've spoken to the laminits trust, had the farrier and spoken to my vet who's suggested pergolide alongside his vitex and he's coming tomorrow to assess him. I'm just thinking the worst as his quality of life (constant box rest) is not up to much and wondering if I am just prolonging the inevitable... I want to do the best for him but it's very hard to know if I'm making the right decisions. I think my emotions get in the way as he was my daughter's pony and I've had him from a 2 year old and he's now 15. Our animals yield lots of pleasure but these kind of decisions are very painful... sad
By the way Paula - I live in North Sheffield - equal distance between Sheffield, Barnsley & Rotherham. Driffield is not so far away, probably an hour's drive. Your pedastal sounds strong enough for an elephant! Do tell me some about you and your horses?
I seem to have written a short essay so will sign off for now!
PS Judith - any show cobs in H & H?
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 19th, 2009, 2:29pm »

This is probably not helpful but i gather Judith is looking for a show cob - well I know a very handsome Irish Sports Horse for Sale 8yrs 16 hands. He is advertised as Black! but he has beautiful white markings on the other side so i'd say he was coloured but i suppose he's not a cob and probably hasn't the proper papers to be in a show but as i know nothing about showing I thought I'd let you know details because I'd love him to go to a good home and I'd give him a rosette any day!

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« Reply #24 on: Jun 20th, 2009, 09:48am »

Dear Vanessa,
We know all about a lamimitis that doesnt respond to ANYTHING. Ours hit in February , a fit working stallion [hunting ,general hacking etc] and every day he got worse.There are times when the laminitis [in about 20% of cases] is so 'toxic' that all the usual rules - keep off grass,have them non obese etc- do not apply. Its important that you , Vanessa, do not feel guilty or that you have failed in some way. There are these dreadful metabolic things that no one can guard against , and it might be [ especially as the pony has cushions] that it could be the case here. If there were signs of improvement , and you wanted a bigger box rest pen , he could always come here , our pens are perfect for box rest animals ,plenty going on ,amnd enough room not to be claustrophobic [ and that goes for anyone needing box rest who reads this]
I m not suprised Striker is testing you - just get tough!He can take it[ I know your 'tough' is not that tough!] and probably likes the challenge of squaring up to you. The palomino we have here is very similar . He will still be here at camp , so might make an interesting demo.
I shall be pleased to show you the cows. The calf is doing so well , and as for Valiant , well he s emormous and no longer remebers that I helped him!I dont think any will calve during the camp , there are 2 showing sligt signs of bagging up , but are probably 5-6 weeks away.
Whilst I do see show cobs for sale on the websites [ horsequest in particular has the county level horses] they are extremely dear , and also already backed and 'schooled'. I am so wary of how these horses are taught. I know many are fine ....but they are the ones that dont come up for sale!!!! Like Ben they become cherished horses that never get passed on. But I ll keep looking....
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 20th, 2009, 09:54am »

Thank you , Magnolia , for thinking of me .Yes, he does sound coloured , even if 1 side has no white. It is a cob I definitely want - dont ask me why , they are just the horses that I love.
Practically none of them have breeding papers , they are bred in all sorts of random ways . In Ireland , where they get a good proportion of decent animals , they seem to be R I Draft cross something else, probably a gypsey cob. In Uk , various people have tried to breed show cobs , but the type is hard to 'stamp'. Ususally again they are R Irish draft cross. I wouldnt mind getting a pic of the horse , 'just in case'. If you attach it to judith@sinningtonmanor.co.uk I ll see for myself!
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« Reply #26 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 08:01am »

Well I've been having traumas of my own - unrelated to cows though! I'm currently hobbling about as a fall (from Strider) left me with torn ligaments in my ankle sad
I'm trying to be good and rest with ice packs but I'm finding that very tough (I'm rubbish at sitting around!) but do need to be more mobile for summer camp! I was very worried in case it was broken but 4 x rays and 3 doctors said not - thank goodness! Occurred as Strider being his usual self, refusing to trot in a circle and napping going sideways - I put pressure on him and he went off in a very bouncy canter from one end of the school to the other - I tried to turn him and asked for halt - which he did almost at the end of the school - dead stop! I didn't and went flying over his head, landing on all fours with all my body weight on my ankle underneath me! I haven't fallen off since 1991 so I guess I was due one! shocked The pair of us were most surprised by my exit from the saddle but he's now getting rounder and rounder in the field and I'm nattering about being fit for summer camp!
Thank you for your kind words about laminitis Judith - I have been battling with this insidious disease for 2 years now. When you've had it happen to you, as I know you have, it is THE most awful disease to deal with. My pony is on box rest till Fri when we will assess him again and then start pergolide at a low dose. Your offer of a large box rest pen is most tempting but he lives next to my little shetland, separated by a low partition and they are very bonded, having lived together for many years, although the shetland is very much the boss. I believe their friendship and companionship has taken the tedium and isolation out of enforced box rest and realise that when one of them departs, the other one is going to be devastated. So I guess at the moment, where one goes the other goes too! and I'll cross the separation 'bridge' when it arrives.
I'm so pleased the cows are doing so well and I can't wait to see them. I think they've given you enough drama for the time being! Here's to a quiet summer!
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 24th, 2009, 08:45am »

GET WELL SOON!
I m glad nothing was broken, make sure you plenty of rest .How very frustrating. A similar fall happened to me , on our last satallion - we were cantering downhill, and he slowly got stronger , so I applied the one rein stop.....so he did, and I went over the far shoulder because I dnot kept my weight over the near side. Easily done - at least it proves the emergency stop works well- sometimes a little too well.
[ Should you wish it the 2 could share a pen ,if you need a rest from the box rest duties . Please remember that we d always take them , it would be no trouble]
One of our 4 visiting /scholing horses has returned home. A little welshman , anxious and sensitive , but his mum did ride him before he left , so that bodes well. Of the other threee, ! [ which we bred] has also been ridden for first time by her mum [ they will be in summer camp].The other 2 are also doing well : ridden and relaxed.
Yes, cows ok , although my new girls are being dehorned today which isnt pleasant. However, horns are too dangerous , especially in winter time when all live together. The youngest/smallest/shyest gets more than enough horns playfully jabbed into the ribs - we just dont want that to happen. We are resting fields needed for summer camp , which means the boys will be above the railway line with the cows. I hope Ben behaves himself ......he s been trying to break out of his present field as he s bored in there. He Wills and Pebbles are fat , but Foxy, being 1 and growing , still has ribs showing and a thin neck. As we need FOxy to have good grass , it means the others get too much!
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« Reply #28 on: Jul 1st, 2009, 4:56pm »

Is there anyone there...?
I hope Vanessa is doing ok. We ve had 1 person drop out of camp because of pregnancy - at least thats a positive reason , unlike injury!All the very best , Kathryn

These hot days are not good for work. Or horses - most of ours stay in all day , in their groups ,in the large pens. Ben is getting so much grass at night he stands happily with the other 3 boys , too full to bother about personal space. We are plagued here with horse flies - we keep planting trees , which is a bad idea! C and I ride from 8 -9.30 pm the other night , the only comfortable time. To take the 4 boys back above the railway line we both ride 1 bareback and lead one. If either of us ison our own its ride 1 , lead2 , let 1 follow! I love doing things like that , it may not win prizes or awe anyone , but I love it.

The dehorned heifers are still inside , again to keep away from flies , we also have 2 about to calve. A ca;lf from last November has had to be sold on - he thinks he s a bull already! He stopped drinking mums milk , and flirted with all the girls, pawed the ground , a real thingy of the walk!

Plans for the camp are nearly completed , or as good as possible, as things always alter. The itinerary sorted , though not sent back to Liz , and lets hope its fine , but not too hot. Ive tidied a lot of the weeds on road and fields , and have organised it so each person has 4 sessions with me , not 3 as last year. 2 each of liberty and Alexander Tech. One of my seatsecure pupils is on the young dressage UK team [ or at least trains with them] She is in Ireland this week , so I hope she does well. Pressure /tension in any copetition is hard to handle , so I hope she remembers her Alexander directions!
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« Reply #29 on: Jul 1st, 2009, 9:20pm »

Yes I'm here! Thank you Judith - my ankle is getting better slowly! It is still pretty sore and the swelling is more like a golf ball than as it was - a football! I have tried to rest as much as possible and lots of ice packs - it does hurt on uneven ground and if I'm on it for too long but I'm much more mobile - and by next week I'm hoping even better! I'm so looking forward to summer camp - I've just got to be there!
Please could you have a quiet word with your cows and ask them to wait until next week to calve -with no dramas! It would be so wonderful to see newborns at summer camp! I guess you're hoping that they get it over and done with before then so one less thing to think about as organising and running summer camp is such alot of work for you and Charlie - very much appreciated though. Glad to hear the de-horning went smoothly and the heifers are free of flies. (Better bring lots of fly repellant!)
Your way of taking your horses back to their fields sounds absolutely great - one of life's little pleasures to be savoured I agree. I do lead my 2 little boys together when the shetland is behaving (I can tell if he's going to be naughty as he huffs & puffs first!) but Strider is way too feisty to ride bareback to his field! My little shetland brought himself in from his paddock today as I was slightly later than normal - knocked the railing off the paddock fence and off into his stable. My laminitic boy is slightly improved and enjoyed a bath tonight to cool him off. Fingers crossed I can get him sound, The vet also suggested that when (and if) he became more sound that I take him in the school (on a soft surface) and do a little work with him. The vet said this was a now old fashioned and controversial way of dealing with laminitis but maybe the exercise could kick start his metabolism. It is a risky strategy as it could damage the already weakened laminae but would increase the blood flow. The jury is still out on this!
Well as it has now cooled off a little I'm going to sign off for now.
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